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fschmidt wrote

I don't agree with these definitions.  For things that we can't understand, things like quarks and the origin of the universe, saying that we don't understand doesn't make these supernatural.  

Things like cutting edge physics are not supernatural because they are mostly just a matter of collecting more data and then we will understand them.

But this is different from things like the creation of something from nothing, and the problem of motion. These are things that a rational person should conclude are impossible, and yet we observe them.

I would consider the observer effect for the double slit experiment to be a supernatural phenomenon if it is true, but I have doubts that it is true.

fschmidt wrote

 it is contrary to observed experience for anything like the soul to exist independently of a body.  

I would say it is unobserved but "contrary to observed experience" is a stronger statement which I would disagree with. What has been observed that would suggest that the soul does not exist independently of the body?