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fschmidt wrote

Simply no.  People with strong values put those values over animal needs.

You would think, but psychology proves otherwise. The Maslow Pyramid shows how only when peoples' basic needs are met at a basic level can they consider other things.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

You can't think about food if you're drowning. Air > Food

You can't think about all those high-minded values if you're starving. And I don't mean living on beans. I mean you have nothing and you're nearly dead.

You don't know what you'd do if you were actually deprived of a basic need and would die if you didn't do X. Most people would do X, even if it violated some moral belief they think they hold.

The Milgram experiment proved that most people will give up a value and hurt people simply when told to do so. You think if they were the ones suffering, and could push a button that shocked another person instead, they'd hold out until they were dead?

I wish there could be that experiment. I dearly wish it. But instead, the world has to stay in its safe, padded room state, so that people who have never been to genuinely horrible places can continue to think they're better than the people who have.