Re: proposed changes

Posted by Drealm on
URL: https://mikraite.arkian.net/proposed-changes-tp998p1004.html

fschmidt wrote
Mikraite currently handles concepts fine.
I agree.

fschmidt wrote
What it doesn't handle is identity.
I think identity is a spectrum with different degrees of overlap. If you look at our group we have things in common that we take for granted. We are all western or westernized, living in the west, mostly American, English speaking, essentially atheist, enlightened leaning, more or less egalitarian minded and traumatized by modern culture. No we are not the same race. Obviously this is a weak identity but it's still a lot of things that we take for granted. I don't think we would of gravitated to each other if we didn't have a number of these overlaps.

fschmidt wrote
The religions I visit don't share my concepts
By concepts I mean segregating gender and following the Old Testament. I don't know what you refer to this as.

fschmidt wrote
, but they address identity.
So you've been going to a mosque, do you identify as a Muslim or Arab or middle eastern?

fschmidt wrote
I don't expect Mikraites to adopt the identity of these religions,
You expect Mikraites to parrot the identity of these religions, which is actually worst. This attacks your own identity without replacing it with a better one.

fschmidt wrote
but I do expect attending these religions to cause Mikraites to identify less with modern culture.
I disagree. There is no such thing as subtraction without replacement. You are replacing "modern" culture with imitating traditional culture.

fschmidt wrote
You feel more comfortable going to a Starbucks than to a mosque, and for me it is the reverse. This is because your identity is still more aligned with modern culture than with other cultures.
 

It is not the reverse for you. You don't have an identity to begin with. You don't identify based on language, race, geography. You freely admit that you are not racist. To you everything is the same. This is why you can just as easily hop from Orthodox Jewish to Islam to Mennonites. That is a unique way of thinking. Most people are not that free thinking. Find for me another Orthodox Jew, Muslim or Mennonite who would do the same as you.