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Ibn Ghassan

Anders Behring Breivik

Online manifesto of the Islamophobe and the anti-Jewish Nordic terrorist:

http://www.deism.com/images/breivik-manifesto-2011.pdf

fschmidt

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Have you read this? It is quite long. Here is a better formatted version with a table of contents:

https://info.publicintelligence.net/AndersBehringBreivikManifesto.pdf

But "Breivik admitted in court that it was mostly other people's writings he had copied and pasted from different websites."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik#Compendium

So maybe not worth reading.

Here are some far right European writings that I like:

https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/interview-with-alexander-dugin/
http://katehon.com/article/rightist-critique-racial-materialism
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009WQUMBU/

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Ibn Ghassan

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Even if he did copy them, to see what he copied and found worth sharing plus the time and effort he spent into it is worth a read...we all read and copy someone somewhere but this man killed close to 80 people in cold blood in order to get his message across and openly identified himself as an "Odinist" aka racist, Some of the books already written on him are as follows:

1) "Anders Breivik and the rise of Islamophobia"
2) "One of US, The Story of a massacre in Norway and its aftermath"
3) "The mystery of the Lone Wolf Killer"
4) "A Norwegian Tragedy, The massacre on Utoya"

etecetra , etecetra...moot point is that he has pushed Nazi philosophy further up the ladder in Europe/North-America and exhibited his Nazi salute at each of his appearances at the court:

fschmidt

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While I am certainly against Nazism, modern Western culture in its current form is considerably worse than Nazism. Nazism was just racist, while modern culture is pure evil, against all forms of goodness. So I have little doubt that the authors of the books you mentioned, as members of modern culture, are more evil than Breivik.

The white nationalist movement just doesn't interest me very much because it is doomed to failure and won't be historically significant. The interesting contest will be between traditional religions and modern culture.

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Ibn Ghassan

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Well said! But what will bind the traditional religions or people of faith into a strong group that rises up as one against the proponents of “modern culture” aka materialistic culture ?

That is the answer I seek.

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While I am certainly against Nazism, modern Western culture in its current form is considerably worse than Nazism. Nazism was just racist, while modern culture is pure evil, against all forms of goodness. So I have little doubt that the authors of the book you mentioned, as members of modern culture, are more evil than Breivik.

The white nationalist movement just doesn't interest me very much because it is doomed to failure and won't be historically significant. The interesting contest will be between traditional religions and modern culture.

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Ibn Ghassan wrote

But what will bind the traditional religions or people of faith into a strong group that rises up as one against the proponents of “modern culture” aka materialistic culture ?

That is the answer I seek.

Me too.
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Ibn Ghassan

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For those who seek a way out, I believe the strongest contender would be a faith that does not lay any material(physical) emphasis on what it means to see, touch, feel, embody or visualize God.

A faith that is most distant from the materialistic hegemonic definitions of modern idolatrous culture is in my opinion the most suitable pathway to tread upon.

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Given the current weakness of all contenders, I support any that still have promise. Obviously I personally prefer Islam to Christianity, but I am not going to criticize traditional Christians for their choice. Christianity is fundamentally based on the concrete as I explained here. While there are no good people left in modern culture or modern religions, I can still find examples of a good catholic and a good orthodox.

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Ibn Ghassan

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Read this document of mine, and up to the last line, it will make my point a bit more clear:

http://www.academia.edu/37722783/Ludwig_Wittgenstein_and_Religion

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Given the current weakness of all contenders, I support any that still have promise. Obviously I personally prefer Islam to Christianity, but I am not going to criticize traditional Christians for their choice. Christianity is fundamentally based on the concrete as I explained here. While there are no good people left in modern culture or modern religions, I can still find examples of a good catholic and a good orthodox.

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Of course I had to look up Wittgenstein. It seems that he went through 2 phases that were quite incompatible with each other. You are mostly talking about the first phase while I am more sympathetic to his second phase. I can understand why you would object to a concrete God based on Wittgenstein's phase 1. But it seems to me that Wittgenstein's phase 2 in fact justifies a concrete God as a kind of language game.

I am playing by your rules here when in fact I simply reject all of Western philosophy as I explained in my "Truth and Alternatives" post.

Just speaking practically, I do agree that an abstract conception of God is less problematic for intelligent people. But for stupid people, there is no question that a concrete conception of God is more effective. A successful religion must address the full spectrum of human intelligence. Islam does this by elevating Muhammad and the prophets. Intelligent Muslims can think in terms of God while less intelligent Muslims can simply focus on Muhammad as a means of relating to God.

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Ibn Ghassan

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Again, I have to agree with you, well said! And that means you possibly are on the route to be amongst the more intelligent ones :-)

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Of course I had to look up Wittgenstein. It seems that he went through 2 phases that were quite incompatible with each other. You are mostly talking about the first phase while I am more sympathetic to his second phase. I can understand why you would object to a concrete God based on Wittgenstein's phase 1. But it seems to me that Wittgenstein's phase 2 in fact justifies a concrete God as a kind of language game.

I am playing by your rules here when in fact I simply reject all of Western philosophy as I explained in my "Truth and Alternatives" post.

Just speaking practically, I do agree that an abstract conception of God is less problematic for intelligent people. But for stupid people, there is no question that a concrete conception of God is more effective. A successful religion must address the full spectrum of human intelligence. Islam does this by elevating Muhammad and the prophets. Intelligent Muslims can think in terms of God while less intelligent Muslims can simply focus on Muhammad as a means of relating to God.

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The only religion capable of righting the West if Christianity is kaput cannot be Hinduism and Buddhism, even more alien to the West than Islam.

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Once people realise that Christianity so kaput that liberalism which replaced it is also kaput, the solution of Islam should become obvious.

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Once Westerners repent of the idolatry that is Christianity, the new religion of the West should become obvious.

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